Worthless Teenagers and the Parents who Make Them

“dear dan, i am 16 and i was wondering if you could help me know what to do, cause i am at the point that i hate myself and anybody else and i feel like theres no hope and i thought that you might be able to give me some advise since you are good at stuff like that. my mom is always screeming at me and her and my dad don’t love me and i don’t know why cause i try to do everything i can and i’m not a bad kid but they always tell me i am in fact my mom today sayd that i am one of gods biggest mistakes cause i slept threw my alarm and missed my bus. my dad doesnt ever hit me but he is always calling me an idiot or a retard or stuff like that. anyway at school i don’t really have very many friends cause i’m to shy i guess. i don’t know what to do cause i am just wanting to give up even trying anymore cause why should i? have you ever felt like nobody cares if you just disappear cause i really feel that way even with my parents.”
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My best fried stopped a suicide attempt the summer after I graduated from High School. I was sitting in the middle of my parents' bed with my dad's pistol pointed at my skull when she came through the front door (yeah, I was making a statement with the where and how)....she said she'd felt something was wrong and needed to check on me. She called another friend & they put together a support network for me that held together long enough for me to start planning. The despair was momentary. I didn't want to die. I just didn't want to live like that, and I couldn't, for a few moments, see past the present. Everything I'd wanted to do after graduation, my parents had put a stop to. I had a car I couldn't touch without permission, I wasn't allowed to get a job (he would give me any money he felt I needed), Any plans I made with friends required permission (and were always changed in some way), I arrived late everywhere I went, and had to leave early - when I was allowed to go at all......the list goes on and on. As a child, though, I never doubted that my parents loved me, that they were just trying to do what they thought was best for me. Weird, isn't it?
My parents would "re-write history" - something would happen, and when it was discussed later, there was only a vague resemblance to the events I experienced, actions, words & motivations were all miraculously transformed to tell a different story. I almost told a counselor at school about some of the things that went on at home, about being thrown against the wall, about how my Mom had to wear heavy make-up and sunglasses to work a couple times a year....but, my Mom put a stop to that idea. She told me point-blank that if sides had to be taken,she would ALWAYS choose my Dad. He was her mate, I was just her child....so I didn't dare. I didn't really want to know what would happen if social services came by & didn't take me with them when they left.
I've suffered from anxiety and depression my whole life. I don't believe I really know what JOY is....despite having flickers of true happiness here and there. Do I blame my parents? I did for a while, but I've since come to realize that I am responsible for my own happiness. I was in my 30's before I cut off communication with my parents for a while. Things are better now, but I don't know if they will ever be "right."
Brilliant. I faked it for years and had to have lots of treatment for severe depression before I realised I'd managed to force myself to be a person I'm not. Being assertive did not go down well with my extremely controlling father and our relationship has deteriorated since but I suppose I think there's no point in being Daddy's little girl if he has no idea who his daughter actually is and would rather try and mould her than let go once in a while and find out. And the depression still comes and goes but life is much better.
I think one of the things that fueled my rebellious stage against my parents was culture shock, or rather culture disconnect. As Immigrants, they have different expectations of me than the ones society had, and it confused me, made it seem like I was rebelling when I was doing something socially acceptable (like skipping an essay rewrite that I already got 100% on), and making me feel neglected because they weren't doing what society expected them to do. I'm fortunate to have loving and listening parents, so they do listen when I say "Mom, Dad, I need to you say that you're proud of me, I can't just assume it", or "Mom, Dad, I'm passing this course, it's okay that I'm not getting a 95", or "Mom, Dad, I need to take a break from studying and relax and be a kid". A lot of kids have a hard time vocalizing this, with reason. It took me years to get this through, and they're still uneasy with it.
Part of my rebellion was also realizing they're human and make mistakes, when they were still trying to be perfect and not. That one's harder, and I'm still working on it.
Only just found this as an older teenager who's parents barely even know me because I'm little miss perfect for them. I have to be they have called me it since I know. Little miss sunshine. They don't know anything about what I really love doing because I hide it from them. They'd try to make it theirs and it's MINE. The only thing that's mine in my life. They don't care about me unless I'm getting As at school. I don't not do that just to spite them because that would damage my own dreams. But I had depression for years and they didn't know until 10 months ago because I ended up having my stomach pumped after attempting suicide to be frank.
Don't get me wrong I love them. I'm sure their intentions are good. But I just want them to let me be me. I almost went into accountancy just to please them. I'm good at maths but I HATE it. I'm glad I decided to be me. Anyway. I'm 18 now. I made it through. I move out in a few months. I know it won't be easy. But at least my opinion may count a little and I will have the option to make my own decisions. I am lucky. I have found parent figures in other people I know. But I am still a very closed off and independent person to the point it damages me. I am working on it I'm trying. I just. This made me cry and realise how much of me isn't really me. But what my parents wanted me to be. I'm not the child they wanted. I'm nothing like them.
I love kids and I work with kids and other young people as a kinda unpaid job. But I am still fearful of having my own. I fear I'll muck it up as much as they did. I wouldn't want my kids to go through what I went through alone. My parents don't believe in depression or annorexia so it was completely impossible to tell them. Anyway I found you and this today and it gave me a burst of strength for these next few months.
Thank you, I sincerely hope you keep at it.
Dan,
I just heard of your blog when a friend shared your "I am Christian, unless you're gay.." blog with the note from the mom, I cried instantly. Then I started exploring more of your blog and found this article. I can't reach of to that girl though I wish I could hug her and set her mind and soul straight, she is beautiful, priceless, strong to ask for help, and will have a better life but it will take help, she should get counciling esp. before she has a relationshop of her own, trust me I know from experience. I grew up in that household (crap here come the tears, you've made me cry a lot this morning, but it a good cleansing cry) my mom on a daily, weekly basis from as early as I can remember which is about 5 or 6 yrs old has told me how she regrets me, how I ruined her life, how she never wanted me, how I made her fat, how I made my dad leave her bc she was fat, bc I was not a boy. How she always wanted to send me to my dad or grandparents to live. I grew up thinking i was worthless, and that I wanted to die. I did try suicide when I was 15, luckily I failed. Finally I did go live with my grandparents, they have always been my rock of stability. My dad, never felt those things about me, this I learned later in life when I had the strenth to ask him. I found out that he wanted custody of me but bc he was in the Navy and went to sea, he could not have it. Today, I am 36, I have 5 kids ranging from 16 to 3. I am NOT my mother. I tell my kids daily that I love them. Yes, i have made parenting mistakes but never that big, I have always tried to mend my mistakes with dicussions, apologies, and hugs. I think my kids know how much I love and support them as people. My kids are brilliant, will go far in this world, further than me because they have the support of a parent who cares about them, twoactually. My husband grew up in the same household, broken, bitter, and abusive. We often have discussions about the torment we still feel over our parents treatment of us and in his case the parents complete lack of acknowledgement of their wrongdoings. In my case, my mother has admitted and apologized, I have forgiven but I sometimes still have issues with acknowledging her love and the reasons for her apology, but that is my wound that is still healing. If I could talk to this girl I would show her she can make it thru this, others have, I have, after years of being told I'm worthless I am raising wonderful kids,I have worked hard to get an MBA while doing that, she can accomplish much, and quite honestly nothing proves a person more wrong than showing them the complete opposite. Or as Henry Rollins said in an awseome spoken word tour when I was 17...Don't kill yourself, if people don't like you stay alive, and totally piss them off by doing it. Much love to your awesome blog and parenting. I got a few laughs today from you too, pistachios...thank goodness I haven't had to deal with the "up the nose" thing. Joanne Baldwin
My mom and I just couldn't get along, I could do nothing right for her, no matter how I tried and man, did I try... I'll never forget how I felt when she told me "Had I known how you'd turn out, I'd have aborted" When I tried to commit suicide (it didn't work, obviously), she then told me I was too damn selfish, how could I not think about how she'd feel, about how my other family members would feel... It seemed to me that it only mattered how others would feel but how I felt the whole time was just not relevant. And why I felt that way even less, huh?
It's been a long time since then but I'll never forget these things. It still hurts like hell.
I know this happens in many families... Hell, I've seen it happen to my friends right in front of my eyes. But... I can't say that I've ever felt worthless in my parents eyes. I have never felt worthless, ever. I've felt goofy, clumsy, dorky, and happy. Throughout it all I've always felt happy and loved. Maybe it's because I'm the youngest, but I sincerely doubt that because my family has always been really tight and loving. My biological father was murdered when I was two, and you would think that I have this piece missing from my life. I never felt it. My mother remarried, to the only guy I've ever known as my dad, and I never once felt like he thought of any of us as "not his" or "worthless brats" or whatever. He gave me something that everyone should have: A loving father. He was kind, he was easygoing, he was strict, he was funny, he was fiercely protective of us, he told me stories and jokes, he hugged me and let me cry on his shoulder. He told me some of the most important things I've ever heard. "Life does get better than this, I promise. Of course you can have a slumber party with the girls and take over the living room and make a mess in the kitchen, because that's what kids should do. It will be all right. I love you and I'll never stop believing in you. You can tell me anything and I promise not to freak out until you've finished. Life has it's ups and downs, and it's not always sunshine and roses; but if you have the love of your family and friends and you love them in return... You can weather any thing." And you know what? Everything he told me was spot on.
Then there was my mom... You couldn't find a better soccer, dance, cheer leading, football, working, single then married again mom. She was our champion. When life tried to tell us that we weren't good enough, she stood up to it, pushed it back, and told it that we were good enough. She held us when we cried, pushed us when we thought we couldn't do it, let us step back when we had enough and she loved us. She loved us to the point that our friends were jealous. It wasn't noisy, but she knew what was going in our life. She wasn't a tiger mom, but we kept active and excelled in what we did. We didn't drink, smoke, do drugs, have sex, our get in fights... But we always knew that if we had done any of those things, first she would have knocked our heads together, then sit down and talk about why we did it and then hug us and say, "we'll get through this together." My mom always put us first, and now that we've all left the nest, we try to make sure that we spoil her as often as possible... Even though she thinks that we should be spending our money on, "more important things," like there could be anything more important than family, right?
Growing up I never felt rich, I never felt poor, I felt loved. I felt bad and confused and just plain sorry for those of my friends and others that I saw that had the real crappy parents. In high school, my friends always would look at me like I was crazy when I would call my parents and say things like, "Well, we're going to Mario's bday party and I don't know who's going to be there. I'm not sure if any adults will be there and yes, I am pretty sure that there will be alcohol there. Call you when I'm headed home. I love you, too." Or maybe, "I think we're going to go set off fireworks in the dry lake bed. Oh, and there was an old, rusting, dead van that looked like it's been there for ages that some of the guys want to blow up... Yeah, I think that they are pyromaniacs, as well. Oh, no! I'm planning on staying as far away from that and I will be ready to call 911 when someone catches fire. Plus, I have plenty of water. Okay, talk to you later. Love you!!" The thing that no one wanted to understand is that I was honest with my parents because they trusted me... They trusted me because I was honest with them. They didn't have to worry about me because they knew what I was doing. I know, it may sound like I was a goody two-shoes but my brother and sister are the same. We're an honest, loving and tight family. I know their faults and they know mine, but we've never focused on them.
The guy who's my father in every way except blood was one of those kids who had hard, well meaning parents and siblings who treated him like crap... He turned out pretty okay. So, for those of you who think that it's an endless cycle of parent hurting their children out of "love" and those said children becoming like their parents... My dad is living proof that it doesn't have to be that way. And for those of you who have treated your children this way, stop and reevaluate your life. Now, go apologize to your children and hug them and kiss them and be thankful that they are here in your life and know that no matter what, they could never be a mistake and never be less than a miracle. And to those kids who think that no one cares and that they are insignificant... YOU MATTER! Now, go tell your parents that the way they are treating you isn't healthy of conducive to a happy childhood. Tell them that when they say those things that they hurt and that if they aren't careful they are going to lose you. And if that doesn't work, make your own damn family. Jenny who lives down the block and has had your back through everything, held your hand when you cried, sat with you in silence and laughed with you about something that no one else on this planet could ever understand... Well, she's your family so keep her close. And know that you're her family, too.
P.S.
Sorry your parents are douche bags. Things will get better but you just have to stand tall and fight back. And somewhere, somehow there is at least one person in your life who cares whether you stand or fall, laugh or cry, dance or sit, or shine like the beautiful miracle you are or hide your beauty from the world. Someone cares. I care. Dan cares. The other teens who are going through the same thing care. Don't let the world knock you down.
This kind of treatment doesn't begin when you become a teenager. I heard how worthless and stupid I was from the time I was young. I thought I ignored my dad, but once my mother finally left with me and my sister, I realized that everything he said was in my head. (My mother kept quiet because she was afraid. I felt like I was on my own very early.) His voice replayed in my head for years constantly. After awhile I only heard those nasty things when I failed at something. It has taken until now (at 43) to get that I matter and that I have something to contribute. I know exactly how the teen feels. I wish I could say that it goes away quickly or easily. I married someone much like my father who told me the same things. I got divorced after a year. My son had to put up with hearing those things too. Even though I told my son he was wonderful and smart, he believed his father. No matter how many nice things you hear, you only believe the bad stuff that you heard as a child. My son went from an outgoing, happy toddler to an introverted, shy teen who stopped smiling. With my help and doing the same work I have, my son has gotten who he really is. He may still have more work to do (I might too), but at least he, at almost 20, has gotten that he's smart, capable and loves people--much less time than it took me.
You really nailed how these put-downs from parents work, why the parents do this, and the results. I've never read anything where this was explained so clearly. I never understood why my son's dad wanted to control him or break him. Thank you for writing this.
Its incredible, the way you have delved the teen world. Being one, I know all the challenges and uphill tasks that consist of teen life. Pressure, from parents, peers, from everyone who seem to not care stifle the living hell out of you. And like idiots, we ignore it all. I have seen plenty of my friends suffer and apart from some consoling advice, I feel I really can't help much. Hope this post changes some of the people's psyche :) Kudos for a great article !
There is one more thing that you forgot to mention in this article about why teenagers feel such angst. I tried everything in my power to have a relationship with my sons; yet their father is a sociopath. He believed that the best way to ensure our sons had no relationship with me was to alienate them from me in entirety. He had help; his parents. My sons treated me with utter contempt. There was nothing that I could do right. I was always wrong. My sons, even as teenagers, lied, cheated, and maniplated me; just like their abusive father. So, sometimes it is not the parent's fault. Sometimes, it is the teenager's if they have help and encouragement to live an antisocial lifestyle, from one parent. They reach a point where they have to choose which lifestyle works for them. My sons chose pornography, drinking, drugging, and assaults. They were completely enmeshed, codependently, with antisocial behavior that their father, and his family taught and encouraged. I walked away. I just continued to pay child support. But, I cut all of my sons loose; walked away; and began the path to my new life of happiness, free of abuse.
I'm a seventeen year old girl who's grown up in a "good" home. My friends love my parents. But my parents have fallen into these things. My dad doesn't make an effort at all to have a relationship with me. A few times a year he'll "apologize" and say he wants a better relationship but it never happens. It never has. He doesn't get that even though he's probably hurt me more in my entire life than anyone else, I'm still loyal. Sure I don't agree with his thinking and truthfully I don't respect him, but I fake it, and I never tell other people. I get judged for not having a good relationship with my dad and yet I still don't speak up and explain.
I went searching for love, and it hurt me. As a preteen and early teenager I attached myself to people and inevitably I'd get thrown away and hurt and more convinced every single time that there was something wrong with me. And of course, the first boy who really payed attention to me, I trusted way too much and latched on and it broke me down again when he turned out to be immature and hurtful.
I've spent my whole life thinking I'm fat and ugly and not good enough. I've spent my whole life thinking nobody will love me. I've spent my whole life allowing people to walk all over me because... why wouldn't I?
I just wanted to say, you right on the dot with this. The whole just thinking you have to make it to eighteen and then it'll be ok? That was me.
Parents do need to understand that life is HARD for a teenager. Sometimes the trouble we get into is our fault, but regardless, all we really need is proof that someone loves us no matter what. If our parents, the ones who knew us the best at least while we were children, don't seem to love us, how are we supposed to succeed? How are we supposed to believe that anyone will? How are we supposed to believe that anyone should?
Thank you.
Oh and, (this is the same person), things are getting better.
My parents are somehow better at parenting me now than ever before. Possibly because I don't require much parenting.
Honestly, I realize I was a difficult child. I realize that parents have it hard too, and that they say things they don't mean and sometimes have no idea that their child is hurting.
To all the people talking about parenting teenagers (especially older teenager): Possibly the single most important thing that my parents have started doing is letting me make my choices. I wanted to date a boy, I explained my reasoning, and my mom told me that she wasn't a fan of the idea but that it was my decision. In her words, "I don't really want you to, I don't want to see your heart broken, but I'm going to say it's your decision, I just hope we can keep an open line for advice." The same thing when I asked to go see a movie that my parents weren't fond of. They said, "Sometimes I don't like your decisions." But they didn't say no. Even when I was discussing moving away to university a year early, eight hours away, they let me think about it and pray about it and decide. Obviously you can't do this with your younger teenagers, but when they get to 16-17, give some leeway. Being a teenager feels like being kept in captivity a lot of the time. And the kids who are kept in the strictest homes are the ones who go crazy when they're finally "free." Gradually give your kids responsibility and freedom. Even when they don't deserve it. They'll live up to the expectation.
More than half of what you've said could be my teenage years, which I've just come out of. One of the best things my parents have done for me is to accept and be okay with me drinking in college. I didn't drink in high school and I was always honest with my parents about what I did. When I got to college, I wanted them to know that I wasn't drinking myself into oblivion every night and I was behaving responsibly. They said that that was okay, and it turned into an amazing dialogue in which I could tell my parents what I was actually doing. I never drank to too much excess, and they knew it. They trusted me to do the right thing to take care of myself, and I never felt I had any reason to go beyond that. My mom knew what I was doing on a weekend night, and when I came home for holidays it was easy to ask her to come pick me up if I was going to be having a few drinks at a friend's house. I have so many friends who can't tell their parents what they do on a weekend because they're afraid of telling them about drinking. Can't tell their parents they were in the hospital last night because they made a stupid mistake or drank something they never drank before.Parents, don't you want to know what your kids are doing? Where they are on friday? If they went to the hospital? If they went to help a friend? Don't you want to be able to talk to them about it when something goes wrong, so you can give them advice? Don't you want to be able to enjoy a drink with your child and sit down and know that your kid is an amazing adult now, who is living their own amazing life where they're responsible for themselves? I hope more people can be like this. My parent's trust and openness is one of the reasons I have always enjoyed myself and never drank destructively like so many people I know.
I agree with you 100% - and everything that you say about teenagers is true! Theya re all of those things, I was and my boys are now. But if they were perfect they would be out there supporting themselves in the workplace. Every teenager is like this is their own way and WHO CARES! This is what has molded each and every one of us into what we are today. I have a very close relationship with my boys, but maybe that's because I don't turn around and tell them how worthless they are. Teenagers will make mistakes and we as parents are there to let them do it and pick them back up, dust them off and let them know we will always be there for them. Judgement, critisizim, and bullying is a part of their everyday lives. They don't need to hear it from us as parents. You want to know why teenagers don't talk to their parents but share with friends? Because you not their friend. they don't trust you! You are the enemy. As a parent YOU must be strong. YOU shouldn't be rude. YOU should be RESPECTFUL. These children (that is what they are) do not owe PARENTS ANYTHING! As parents YOU owe your child the love, friendship and understand THEY need to grow into a healthy individual.
With you 100% on this. I've had to spend the last several years bringing myself to accept that the only way I could ever hope to make my Dad happy and proud of me would be to become someone I don't want to be. Someone who is completely dominated and lives their life solely for his benefit and convenience. Someone whose life revolves around his and who still thinks the sun shines out of his every orifice the way she did when she was 6 (I don't think he ever really forgave me for growing up). But it's hard, because deep down inside there's still that little 6 year old who craves Daddy's approval.
On the positive side, at least I have a fantastic relationship with Mum. And with Granny, too, when she was still with us. Those two incredible women shaped pretty much all the good parts of who I am today. Sadly, Dad shaped most of the rest.
Even at 21 I am still desperately trying to win my mother's approval. Even after getting a 4.0 and my private catholic college she is more focused on the fact that my tuition is an unexpected 300$ extra. Three hundred dollars or I'll get kicked out of school. No matter how well I do at being the BEST at everything (school, work, organizations, etc) and constantly achieving more highly than my peers she finds the one thing I am doing wrong and focuses all of her resentment of my life into it. I don't know how to be any better. I don't know how to make her proud. She had me at a young age and I changed her life forever. But that wasn't my choice and I'm tired of paying for it. I hope that when I leave for good, never looking back, that for once in her life she feels guilty or sorry. My first memories are of being 7 and taking care of my little sister. I may not remember having a childhood but I'll be damned if I let her have my future.
It's kind of funny to me that parents don't realize that how they treat their children is directly parallel to how their children behave. Humans come out of the womb complete terrors—they're made that way, in part by how they are raised. Everyone should know that how we are parented has a huge effect on what we turn out to be like. If you think there's something wrong with how your child behaves, then first look at yourself and see how you can change your parenting. Then, look at the child.
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We have taken in one of my son's friends. They're both 19 and have been friends for almost half their life. When they were 14 and and got to goofing off and skipping school, we backed the school and made sure our son realized he had to attend. This kid's dad got mad at the principal and yanked him out of school. He has not attended since. His dad is always yelling at him to get a job, join the Army, do something but the kid only has an 8th grade education, no transportation, no phone, no Internet. And he is such a GOOD hearted kid. The essential core of him is just Good. Helps with dishes when he was here, would take the dogs out, do laundry. He's honest and smart, polite and friendly. We made sure he understood that if he moved in here, he had to attend school and get his diploma. We would make sure he had transportation and supplies and clothes if needed. I have taken him to get Medicaid so he can see the doctor if he gets sick and talked our family doc into taking him on as a patient even though he wasn't taking new ones. We have taken him on vacations with us and opened his eyes to other places besides the small town we live in. My heart aches for him, he was feeling so trapped and helpless. I really, truly hope we are able to make a difference in his life because he certainly deserves it. Even if it's just one kid I save, it makes a difference.
If this is indeed true then I feel so sorry for the girl to have experienced this from her parents. Parents do need to understand what their teens have to say because they do matter. Although I too believe that no parent would have wanted to hurt their kids on purpose just because it satisfies them, unless of course if they're not capable of thinking and feeling normally. Any troubled teen nowadays become who they are not just purely because of how parents deal with them but also because there may also be other factors causing it. It's easy for these teens to be influenced by the wrong peers and by the media, in spite of their parent's giving them the love and the support they deserve. But then again, parents could only do so much to understand their teen's behavior. Finding the right help to reform any troubled teen can be challenging but really not impossible.
It probably goes both ways in order to establish a great relationship with your own teens. And once this is done, I'm sure there won't be too big of a problem with parenting our teens.
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To the teenager who wrote the email to Dan...
".. I am one of gods biggest mistakes"
That is emotional abuse. You have been emotionally abused by the people who were supposed to love, protect and take care of you. It is not your fault. And you have every right to feel your feelings; to be angry at your parents, to cry, to feel shorted.
Your dad calling you names is emotional abuse. It is entirely inappropriate. It is not okay. And it is not your fault.
The abusive things they've said about you are not true.
You did not deserve any of this abuse. You deserved, and still deserve, to be seen, heard, validated, respected, loved and appreciated.
Because of the legacy your parents passed down to you, you will have to seek support for yourself when you are an adult. Hopefully, right at 18.
There is hope, there are people who can teach you how to have a good relationship with yourself and give you the love you've always wanted.
But you will have to go to them yourself.
Please, check out themeadows.org and using the "Chat Now" button, ask them for a referral for a therapist in your area.
You are a precious child, regardless that your parents didn't send you that message, just for being born and alive and trying to make it in this harsh world.
You are the reason I want to reach teens as a counselor, to show you the love you so deserved and to teach you how to hold yourself in warm regard.
Do not believe what your parents have told you; they are damaged and toxic.
God says He created you in His image and that He has a plan just for your life. Start seeking God; talk to Him.
God bless you,
Kat
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I saw this site today because I was crying in my closet a few minutes earlier. God knows how much I cried my heart out. My parents just had an argument with me over lunch and it was because of a stupid sunny-side-up egg I cooked for them. I will tell you what happened..
My mom cooked the main course but it didn't look like it will fill up the three of us (mom, dad, me) so I cooked the eggs just so in case someone's not satisfied, there will be something else to eat. I wasn't trying to offend her in any way but when she saw me cooking, she got mad and told me I was being rude for making another meal and that I was disrespecting her for showing that I had no plans of touching what she cooked which was entirely untrue. And just when I thought my dad wouldn't plunge in, he went for the argument and sided with my mom. Now there's 2 of them yelling at me when all I really did was make them both a nice secondary meal. I kept telling them I wasn't trying to be rude but they wouldn't believe me. When I cried, my dad told me I was being dramatic and that my acting wasn't going to work on him. And from there, the issue went down to all the other issues that started from way back when I was born. WHEN I WAS BORN!!! Who cooks eggs and get scolded after that for being such a terrible baby?! I am now almost 19 and I still hurt like a kid for all the things they did to me while growing up. I wouldn't call them abusive because I never really got major injuries but every time and again, they'd slap me on the face or the head as a sign of discipline whenever I say something that they don't want to hear. IT HURTS. I know they love me with their life but I can't feel it anymore. Sometimes, I feel like I just come and go from the house to the school and that I really don't matter to them anymore. Speaking of school, I'm afraid of it and I can blame my parents for that. If my dad didn't call me stupid in 4th grade for not answering a math problem right, I probably wouldn't grow up thinking that I'm not good enough. I know you can tell from this comment that I sound like a kid but to tell you the truth, I've been trying all my life to be the best daughter to my parents. I'm not perfect, I screw up and even rebel against them but deep inside, all I want to be is someone they could be proud of.
My closet isn't big. It's not a walk-in closet where you can lock yourself in. It's just a compartment with a rack and all my clothes there but after being so depressed earlier, I just couldn't help but squeeze myself in and cry. It really hurts.
I hope I get a response from you that'd be really helpful. All I really want is to have someone who would actually listen to me. My parents are off the list. My siblings are not around and my friends probably won't even know what to say. So please respond. I just need someone who is going to listen to me.
I hope that you got a reply so long ago. :) You are a survivor and a warrior. So am I - so was I. You need to start putting together a life outside of your parents, where you can be successful and not have them tell you otherwise. That was such a wise, selfless decision to make more food. You are a successful person. I can tell. :) Put together your life outside of your parents. You deserve it :)
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I just have one question for you. Do you have any teenagers of your own? Being a teenager is incredibly difficult, and there is no question that the power, identification and individuation struggles are intense and difficult. But seriously, being a parent of teenagers is also incredibly difficult. "just fix it"??? Really? Have you been there, or do you just know because you are so wise? It is not nearly as easy as you seem to think. I love my kids more than I could even tell you, have poured out my life for them, would give anything for them, tell them every day how much I love them. I do not tell them they are useless, stupid, or anything of the sort. And yet somehow they manage to believe that they are useless/stupid/unloveable anyway. I used to think that kids struggled because their parents neglected or mistreated them. But let me tell you something. Sometimes they struggle no matter what you do. And it hurts more than you can imagine, and it doesn't help to have some wise guy on the internet telling you to "just fix it. " I hope you never have struggles when your kids are teens. But if you do, I hope that you find grace along the way from someone who has walked down the road and doesn't know it all before he's tried it himself.
Have you ever asked why they felt that way? Tried to gain at least some insight into their feelings and thoughts? Had them share with you their insecurities? I think what Dan is trying to say is to put effort into where many do not seem is necessary...getting the teenagers to vocalize. I mean, what's the point of getting teenagers to speak on their own behalf when they're not "old enough" to have a legitimate opinion, right? Ridiculous. I feel that you either did not read the rest of the column after that or misinterpreted it. He obviously doesn't have teenagers yet, so why bother asking. But "manage to believe that anyway"? "No matter what you do"? Is that some sort of white flag? I believe what you're saying wholeheartedly, but I have a hard time believing that a person who is truly trying to appreciate/understand their teenagers would even come to say that in the first place. He doesn't need someone berating him, thinking that this column's message is somehow condensed into the phrase 'just fix it' (honestly, how did you even think that? Did you not read the second half?) and calling him a wise guy. I also find your sarcasm in bad taste. I, on the other hand, hope that you can come to understand the INTERNAL issues that are troubling your teens: Getting them to at least express how they are FEELING, rather than just what is happening to them EXTERNALLY, will give them some sense of control over themselves. Isn't that what all teens strive for, control?
I just recently took the liberty of subtly revealing my childhood/teenage issues to my parents, because I'm finally able to appreciate the power of understanding. I am 20. Now that I think of it, they were in denial about many issues I faced... hyperactivity, social-awkwardness, skewed priorities (I used to value endless hours of video games over interacting with classmates). I was the loud kid, bad kid, the rebel, unappreciative kid. My mother was very stern, in a traditional Asian sort of way (Caucasian parenting just seemed like a walk through the park in comparison, no offence. I experienced this indirectly through my Caucasian friends). Very verbal, at times physical. But not abusive. Or at least within the bounds of what we considered normal. Heard things she said. Interpreted them the way I only could at the time. Cried a lot. Hated my existence. Knew she loved me but could not connect the dots. Thought about ending things. This was grade 5. Coming out of grade 6 I discovered the ability to internalize.. pain, feelings of worthlessness, loneliness, self-doubt. And most of my external maladaptive behaviour disappeared. My parents were relieved, I was finally 'normal'. Little did they know just how messed up I was becoming inside the shell that I constructed. I temporarily lost the ability to cry. Things would not nearly disturb me the way they would for others. I experienced melancholy and depression.. all the while my external self, the successful track athlete who consistently ranked top 3 in the state who was kind, friendly, sociable, and disciplined, continued to flourish. I received high marks, took sciences, arts, health. What would possible be there to be upset about? I still had times I felt stupid, selfish, incapable, decrepit. My parents never knew, I did not want to ruin the 'prime' example that I was for my younger sister. But I regret my decision to resist now, and the shell is finally coming apart at the seams. Let it break. They tried breaking through the barrier before. I wish they tried harder.
Lynn!
This isn't about fixing something healthy like, teenage disappointment or hurt feelings.
For God's sake, this is about fixing abusive language!
Did you miss the emotionally abusive language in this post, before you got all defensive?
Wow!
I hope you don't call your kids names.
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Oh, sweet girl... Hold on. You'll make it through. I could have written that same email 10 years ago but now, I am independent, working a job I love, surrounded by people I care about and who care about me. It gets better, I promise.
This is the thing, we tried our hardest to show him love, to let him know that we were there for him, to help him with school, friends, our own relationships etc. He shunned it all. Never recognized any of our efforts. If we had to talk to him about something (which seemed contantly at times) we tried to attach something we were pleased with. That was very difficult. He didn't always show much good. It hurt terribly when girl his age from our church was talking with some friends of mine about my son and she "nicely" said she'd love to give me some advice since she'd talked to him a lot about his problems. She then said if we'd consentrate more on the good things he does than on the bad he'd do a lot better. I wanted to scream. For the record, I didn't I kept my composure. I looked like anything but mother of the year to the other ladies at church and I just swallowed my pride. It showed me though, that he didn't recognize, at all, that when we have to talk to him about his behavior we were trying to do it in a positive manner and give him credit for the good things we'd recognized.
Parents are human too. We did make mistakes. But I am proud of the job we did with him and the job we're doing with our other kids. This post struck a chord with me because it sounds like much of what this son would say about us. If I talked sternly he accused me of yelling. If I said his behavior was too aggressive with his sisters he accused me of saying he was abusive. There was never any reaching him. Interestingly enough, one of the 2 counselors said he'd never met anyone as egocentric as my son was in his 10 years of counseling. The other actually said no one will ever reach my son until he allows it to happen and quit on us after almost a year, he could go no further with him.
If my son wrote a letter, he could totally pull the heartstrings. He'd make you cry. He'd actually believe what he's writing too. I've come to the conclusion that no other parents could have reached him. He is who he is. I pray for him more than daily. I pray that someone will be able to break through that stone wall of his, that he'll see what's important in life before he becomes to miserable in life to ever be happy with anyone or thing. I pray for many other things pertaining to him too because I know it's only going to be through the power of God that he gets on track.
Judging is so easy, yet until we know both sides it may cause hurt and frustration to parents who are already doing the best they can. I used to be one of those parents who when I heard about a wayward child or teen told my kids "don't judge them they probably don't have parents who teach them right from wrong." How guilty I feel now. As a wise woman once said, "I won't say anything bad a parent because of their kids behavior because my kids could be doing that right now!"
Forgive my rantings. Sore subject and something I feel is very misunderstood in many cases.
I wonder what a parent of this young girl would have written to you? Don't get me wrong, name calling and degrading comments are uncalled for...especially from a parent who should be well enough educated by now to see that that's only hurtful and is going to complicate something rather than making it better, let alone from a parent who is supposed to love and nurture and protect. Here's my flip-side, my own experience.
One of my sons has completely rebelled and gone of the deep end. There were signs of it from about the time that he was 12. Not to brag or gloat, but I think we're one of the best sets of parents around. We care about our children, take pride in their worth and love them unconditionally. This child though felt we could do no right. In doing those difficult parent things kids hate he judged us harshly. If we said 'no' to him going somewhere it's because "We didn't love or trust him." If we didn't let him pick on his younger siblings it was because, "We pick them as favorites." If we didn't give him privileges until his chores were done correctly it's because, "we were nit picky and we just want to make him miserable."
When we tried to have quality time with him it was never good enough. We couldn't afford the restaurant he wanted to go to, we aren't good enough at tennis to give him competition so that time was a waste of his time to do that with him. Just going for a drive and talking was an invasion of privacy and his space not to mention boring. When he got 4 F's on his report card and we took the ps3 away until his grades were better he stole his siblings DS and hid it in his room. I won't go on and on, trust me I could.
It's easy to sit back and read that letter and assume the parents are completely at fault here but unless you actually know them and know they have done this, you are making assumptions about them that may be false. My oldest was and is a fantastic teenager, well adjusted, funny and caring. My 14 year old is very manipulative and tries to make everyone think she lives under the worst circumstances even though she has been given respect, opportunities, boundaries, rewards, consequences, and tons of love and support. If she grabbed your ear for a minute you would think I was the devil reincarnated because she wants you to think that she has it so rough. When she wants to be, she can be the sweetest child in the world. Without actually investigating whether this heartbreaking letter is from someone who really is in an abusive situation or whether she is trying to get attention, you have jumped all over another struggling parent who may or may not be as awful as you have made them out to be. I'm really dissappointed in this one, Dan. You are playing judge and jury with only one side of the story.
As a child who did play the self-pity card to get attention I have one reply to this. I agree that of course that can be true, because I've done it myself. When I was younger I would make my home sound way worse than it was.
However an incredibly important thing to look for is WHY is the child looking for attention? In my experience, both personal and what I've seen in others, if they're looking for attention, however selfish and messed up it seems, they are lacking something. Whether or not it is as bad as they make it sound, whether or not the problem is what they make it sound like, they are crying out for attention and there is a reason. While your daughter may have been given everything you can see she would have needed, sometimes there's just a disconnect. My parents gave me everything: opportunities, boundaries, consequences, rewards, love, and support. But I still truly felt unloved and uncared for.
One possible reason is the 5 Love Languages. I desperately wanted someone to show me they loved me with hugs and other physical touch, and that wasn't my family's strength, so I always felt unloved. It may be worth looking into.
Besides that, I don't know. I just wanted to point out that if a fourteen year old is manipulative, there's a reason. And as much as she wants to be grown up and independent, I bet you anything that somewhere inside she's thinking, as I did, "Why can't anyone see that I'm not an idiotic teenager, I'm just a hurting kid?"
Wow! There are a lot of hurt feelings there it sounds like. Growing up is hard. We all have difficult things we go through. Being a parent is one of the hardest things I have ever done. My kids are only 4 and 6. I know I say things that hurt them. I do apologize to them. It is so easy to yell.
So I am really writing to say that not all is lost. I had a very challenging childhood and that did carry into my teen years. People say that is the best time of your life? I disagree! However, I knew that my parents loved me, dysfuntional as we were in households, and I had other adults in my life speaking words of love, encouragement, and life. They were my teachers: I attended Faith Christian Academy and I will be forever grateful for them in my life. I hope that we all will be supportive of the teens we know and their parents. Adolescence is a time of struggle between being a child and gaining the responsibilities of adulthood and learning to make good choices. We are all on a journey and need to have grace for ourselves and others. "Grace and Peace to you through Jesus"
Dynamics are funny - which came first the chicken or the egg? I know a child who's father tried and tried to encourage her and give her something, anything, and everything her heart desired (many animals she wanted but then failed to care for) He wanted to make her happy but she chose to notice what she didn't get instead of what she did get. She felt sorry for herself and became selfish and manipulative, always demanding more. This father was a wreck when I met him - his daughter had the power and control you speak of. I know a grown man who was raised by parents who encouraged his talents and gave him private guitar lessons when the school didn't offer enough. He never made the big time. His parents often said We taught you everything we know, what you do with it is your choice. He chose good times with drugs and alcohol and blames his parent's for not doing enough (his parents didn't even drink in front of their children). He had many people in his life encouraging him because he really is talented. His parents had three other children besides him, but if you talk to him today he will still cry in his spilt beer that it's someone else's fault because they didn't do enough for him. He came real close, had his own recording studio and everything, but chose to spend the majority of his time partying with friends instead of making it into something positive. Each person is responsible for their own happiness - teaching someone to blame someone, anyone else is not such a great idea. I remember being a four year old child who hid under the bed to see how long it would take anyone to notice I was missing. That feel sorry for me attitude did not serve me well. Each person can choose to notice the good around them or the bad around them, there will always be both, because people are not ALL good or ALL bad. I would encourage this girl to start noticing the good around her instead of encouraging her to blame her parents because that probably won't serve her well. She can only change herself. That is all any of us can do, but if each of us worked on ourselves we would find our world around us changes for the better. I know because I used to be a feel sorry for me kid with parents who may not have always been right but they were always there. I forgive anything that was out of balance because holding on to it will not serve me. I also remember hearing people say things about me (both good and bad) and it was my choice what I decided to believe. Sometimes the negative things motivated me to prove them wrong more than the positive words. I am thankful for that.
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I am very thankful that my parents always encouraged me to think for myself, and to take responsibility for my own choices. My mom trusted me unless I gave her a reason not to, but because I respected that trust I never did. I was expected to take care of my responsibilities around the house, but once they were done, I was free to do as I pleased. My parents didn't do my laundry or clean my room, so if I wanted to have clean clothes or have friends over I had to make sure those things were done. If I got in trouble at school (only once) my parents listened to my side of the story, but I still had to deal with the consequences of my actions. As I grew up they let me take on more responsibility but also gave me more freedom. And they always let me throw the parties at our house so we could have fun but they could make sure there was no drinking involved, but they didn't make drinking a taboo thing (they let me try what they were drinking if I wanted) so I never felt the need to drink just to see what it was all about. I hope I can be as good of a parent to my own kids! My parents weren't perfect but at least they were relaxed and fun! I think they did a pretty good job of guiding me through the teenage years.
I too have first hand experience of what it was like to be a teenager as well as raising four beautiful children on my own and now I have three gorgous gran babies. I wasnt the perfect parent but I fought with all my might to raise my children the opposite to how I was raised. I have a close relationship with all my kids who are now all grown up. Parents do not realise the impact that abuse has on children who grow up and spend their life struggling to survive with daily life, I am one of those people and the impact that abuse has had on my life is a ongoing journey of unravelling the jigsaw puzzle, challenging the negative self talk that was drummed into me and unravelling insight into triggers from relationships to freindships. It has taken me a long time to learn that I am not a bad person, that I am lovable, that I am capable, that it is okay to let someone get close, that I am safe and it was not my fault. So if you are a parent that is having problems communicating with your child try telling them you love them and give them a hug. My theory is children usaully do not misbehave without a reason.
I think alot of parents forget that these little people grow up into adults. parents who put reflections of themselves onto their own childrens shoulders. Yes reflections of themselves and by taunting and abusing these little people it is somehow supposed to make them feel better Huh!!!!!!!!
I have read a few other comment on this blog post, and have seen how many people come to this issue with different insights and perspectives. As a 22 year old, I in no way know what it is actually like to be a parent, especially of a teenager. I am barely no longer a teenager myself. But, may I use my naivety to make a point?
I am 22 and I have an opinion about this topic. I have insight to share. Someone who is reading this comment may consider me old enough to have an opinion that might hold water. Someone else might think that I'm too young and inexperienced to be taken seriously. But if I told you what I thought and you didn't know how old I was, would you listen then? Would you consider my insight, brought from my experiences, worthy of being pondered over and internalized?
Having just "emerged" from the status of a "teenager" and I can tell you that while I do not know what it is like to be a parent, I DO know what it is like to be a teenager. There are two sides to this story. That, I would think, should be enough to encourage someone to think that perhaps I just might know what I'm talking about.
Your teenagers deserve that same respect. You know what it's like to be the parent. THEY know what it's like to be the teenager. That gives them insight that you do not have. While they may not have had the years and experiences to put some of their insights to accurate understanding, that certainly doesn't strip them of the ability to draw conclusions and make insights from their current experiences.
It has been only a few years since I was in High School and since I was reliant on my parents for permission and punishment. But I do not feel any more capable of learning now than I did then. I was just as much a person when I didn't know what it was like to pay my own rent as I am now. There are things that I have learned now, that explain things I didn't know then, but I knew things then better than when I was a preteen. Life will ALWAYS move along on with that sort of progression. Or so I am told. By the time you are a grandparent you might think that you're methods for parenthood were naive and immature. So please keep in mind, you may be a parent, but you are no more a person than your teenage child is. They are not a slave. They are not a robot. They are not a home for hormones. They are an INDIVIDUAL. Someone with a brain. With a heart. With dreams. With fears. With ignorance. With weakness. They are learning. Just as you are still learning. Stop looking at your teenager like an impersonal project or problem or "teenager", and start seeing and treating and listening and teaching your child as an individual, tangible person. You might start to realize that there is no stereotype that you have to learn to parent. Stop looking at the stage in life called "teenager" as a definition of your child. If you expect them to fit into a stereotype teenager image, then treat them like they do.
As a recent teenager I KNOW that there were people my age who were self absorbed in pushing boundaries, creating drama, and causing trouble. As this blog says, it was a lot about power. And it was also a lot about laziness. And for ages I HATED other teens around me. I hated them for their selfishness. I hated the way they forced schools to be restrictive. How they made insurance more expensive. How they treated me for not acting a long. But I had a few experiences that gave me insight. And I learned that more than anything, these teens around me who were acting like jerks on hormones, were simply trying to find out where they fit into this world. What love DID mean. What pain DID feel like. What joy REALLY meant. They were reflecting the world of ADULTS they saw. The people on TV. In the news. In magazines. In the society around them. They were by no means guiltless for their own actions, but I really believe a great deal of what they did was based in ignorance. They were trying to LEARN as any growing individual does, even without realizing it. They were trying to understand. And they were looking in all the wrong places.
If you are a parent who doesn't honestly try to prevent your child's heart and mind from being fed by the selfishness of Hollywood, the heartlessness of the "real world", and the moral-less patterns of "popular culture", rather than giving them your own heart of love and faith in doing what is right (not just “not doing what is wrong”) to emulate, you have a great deal of fault in your "problem" child.
Love them like someone who is learning. Who does not know what you know, but who is at a different stage of experience and comprehension as well. Know them as an individual. Show them where to look to understand. Give them answers and explanations. Power is not the issue. Authority is the issue. If they see why you have the authority without abusing the power that comes with it, they will grant you the respect of that authority, and you will have all the power that is necessary to parent your teenager in love.
Wise response!
I have two 14 year old daughters. They definitely have their own opinions about things. We do not see eye to eye on everything. They are unreasonable at times, narrow-minded at times, uncommunicative at times. I know that they are struggling with defining who they are; trying to figure out what all the emotions are about; are hurt by friends; and just plain angry at life/people/situations sometimes. However, I have teenagers who are intelligent, talented, gifted, beautiful, quirky, seriously funny when they want to be, helpful, thoughtful, loving, and hard-working. I love them. I love them enough to let them choose their music, their fashion, their hairstyles, their friends, their reading material. I love them enough to insist they do their chores, come home on time, do their homework and treat their little sister with respect.
I want to find your email writer, hug her and bring her home with me. She deserves to know that she is loved, that she is beautiful, that she has value, that she can achieve her dreams, and that she deserves gentleness, respect, and grace.
I did not read all the previous pages of comments, so forgive me if I repeat something that's been said already. I think that by the time our children are teenagers, we have begun to reap what we've sown into them. As parents, we must be the grown ups in the relationship. We must speak encouraging and uplifting words, even in the midst of correction and discipline. When they spill milk, accidentally leave the water hose on overnight, or bicker, how do we react? Do we tell them to be kind to each other while yelling at them? Or do we model kindness? Do we ignore them? Do we match the excitement in their eyes/voice when they're telling us something, giving them our full attention, letting them know how important they are, or are we thinking about something else? Do we try to make them little versions of ourselves, or do we seek to find out who they are and what they're "for?" I'm not advocating a child led house, but a loving, discerning, parent - led one. God knows kids need healthy boundaries! Being quick to recognize our own mistakes and being accountable to them for those mistakes - saying "I'm sorry, I was wrong, please forgive me" (without rationalizing, blaming or trying to justify our own mistakes) goes a long way in a relationship. So parents, let's continue to pour love into our kids - sacrificial, costly love - not love when we feel like it or are getting it back, and let's see what we reap and harvest when our kids are grown.
So my observation. First my parents were verbally abusive to me. They were controlling, insulting, and cruel. There is no excuse for it. I was SUCH a perfectly behaved kid. I got a's and b's in school, was one of the top musicians in the state, never got in trouble but I talked back to my parents and didn't do my chores and didn't get strait A's so I was worthless. Oh yeah I was also fat so that was a CONSTANT source of stress as the whole family got in on the fun of making pig noises while I ate. Stuff like that.
Now I'm a mom and I have a little perspective. First I know my parents loved me (even though I didn't feel like they did years ago) and I know that what they were dealing with was the terrible fear of watching me grow up and make the mistakes they made. My mother also was severely physically abused by her mother and my grandmother was physically and sexually abused by her caretakers (her mom was single and had to work). Abusers are broken people. More then likely their parents did the same to them, or worse. Some of the worst cases of bullying or kids going nuts and shooting people are from kids who are bullied, child or in this case teen abuse is no different. Many of these parent's don't know any better or maybe they're trying their best and have a teen who is getting into trouble all the time and they're at their wit's end. There are always two sides to every story.
It's heartbreaking to hear this young woman's letter, esp as someone who has been through it before, but it's too easy to pass judgement without knowing the whole story. I was a very emotional teen and I would become hormonal and volatile on a regular basis. I would fly off the handle about the littlest things, to the point of breaking down doors and attacking my brothers. Did that make me deserving of abuse? No. Do I understand now why I drove my parents absolutely nuts, OH YEAH! Instead of attacking parents you don't know online where it's safe, how about you talk about HOW you fix it. Do you even know how to fix it? Have you been the parent of a teen?
No parent is perfect all the time. We're all trying our very best with what gifts we have. It's hard to be a mother. Really hard. I don't have teens either and I don't feel qualified to give parenting advice on them just yet. I'm sure most of the same parenting advice applies, help your teen, love your teen and tell them you do, don't say hurtful things, learn how to express your anger in a constructive way, be actively involved in their schoolwork and social lives, let them know you are ALWAYS there no matter what but know also that teens are hormonal kids who are transitioning to adulthood in the most awkward volatile way and they're going to drive you nuts. If you can't take it, get help. If you are broken and your child is too, GET HELP for you both. Find support in friends who love you and stay socially connected for your own sanity as well as your teen's. To call another struggling parent a FAILURE is such a contradiction just because their teen sent you an email talking about how mean they are to her. It's easy to sling insults isn't it? Can you understand why maybe we as parents should be standing together so we can as a community support our kids? I think it's alot more productive an endeavor then telling parents how horrible they are.
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Awesome article. I have always felt a heavy burden as a parent because I believe that there aren't any bad children, just bad parents. So, whenever I see my children exhibiting a certain dysfunctional behavior, I immediately look at myself and my husband. I got pregnant at 16 years old, and cringe to this day to hear people speak negatively about situations such as mine. I wasn't a bad child, I was a child who was alone, depressed, taking love from anywhere I could get it. This awareness stayed with me to this day; 12 years later. But, my mother put on a good show for everyone; I was just a rebellious child in many people's eyes. We are such delicate beings. John Lennon had it right: All you need is love. I constantly remind my husband-who is very much the power hungry parent as you described-that although I know he has good intentions, parenting has to come from a place of love. I believe everything will fall into place if it does.
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